Ohhh, so that’s where our tithes went!

By Eric Sell

This is not our normal way of doing things, but I feel very strongly about an article I just read from the Trumpet Weekly. So, please have a read, and then I’ll comment at the bottom:

Leopold de Rothschild, Lord Spencer and Prince Charles round out a royal day for the ambassador for world peace.

By Gareth Fraser

Kinky, eh? Funny...I thought he always forbade kinky in the church!

On May 14, 1983, Princess Diana’s father greeted Herbert W. Armstrong at his home of Althorp. The estate covers 14,000 acres of English countryside and is located in Northamptonshire, Warwickshire and Norfolk. Lord Spencer acted as tour guide through the many rooms of one of the country’s great homes. Later the two posed for a photograph in front of the stately home. The visit was coordinated by Leopold de Rothschild for over a dozen official “friends” of the Royal College of Music, which included Mr. Armstrong.

The following day, Mr. Armstrong and his entourage visited Woburn Abbey, which has for 400 years been home of the Duke of Bedford. Greeted by the duke’s son, the Marquess of Tavistock, his wife, the marchioness, and the Swiss Baron and Baroness Gunsberg of Geneva. Their private tour included viewings of 17th- through 19th-century artwork, a group luncheon, followed by an inspection of unique selections of china, silver and gold artifacts. The abbey visit was concluded by a drive-by viewing of its sizable animal preserve, which included partridge, pheasant, deer and elk.

The morning of May 16, Mr. Armstrong traveled to the coast to Southampton to meet the Prince and Princess of Wales. Here, at the Rothschild Estate, in Exbury Gardens, he enjoyed tea prior to greeting the royal couple. “When Mr. Armstrong was presented, the prince recounted his two previous meetings with the pastor general and explained to Princess Diana who Mr. Armstrong was” (Worldwide News, May 30, 1983).

Thereafter, Edmond de Rothschild led a tour of the rhododendron gardens, which were originally planted by Lionel Rothschild, who had plant varieties transported to England from around the world. The garden walk ended with a special performance by select students of the Royal College of Music and a formal expression of thanks from Prince Charles to the college’s U.S. patrons.

The group attended a special buffet dinner that evening at the home of Leopold Rothschild, which was made even more enjoyable by the informal seating arrangement enabling those in attendance to not only easily converse with each other but also have ease of access to the prince and princess. Mr. Armstrong spoke for 30 minutes with Edmond Rothschild, covering the subject of gardening and the grounds of the former Bricket Wood campus in Hertfordshire, offering the aristocratic gardener a tour of Ambassador College’s Pasadena campus.

He then spoke with Mrs. Solti, wife of the famed symphony maestro. “I understand that the Chicago Symphony is the top-rated symphony in the U.S. Since [Sir Georg] Solti began conducting. They have not yet appeared at Ambassador Auditorium, but I hope to have them perform,” Mr. Armstrong conveyed. Mrs. Solti commented to him, “Everything you have said was absolutely true.” Mrs. Solti assured Mr. Armstrong that she would speak with her husband about appearing at Ambassador.

It was at this time that Prince Charles came to the party’s table. “The prince then conversed with Mr. Armstrong for 20 minutes, speaking mostly of education. The prince asked questions about Ambassador College, and Mr. Armstrong explained the history and goals of the college” (ibid).

At the time, Prince Charles was the president of the World Colleges, whose objective is to foster peaceful unity in bringing many young students around the world to one campus environment. Britain’s Lord Mountbatten, Jordan’s Queen Noor and South Africa’s Nelson Mandela have all presided in the college’s presidential office. At the time, the World Colleges had six campuses, with around 25 percent enrollment from the host nation and the remainder of enrollment from internationals. Today, they boast colleges in 13 countries. At the 1983 meeting, Prince Charles invited the pastor general to visit the campus in Montezuma, New Mexico, which even today remains an active part of the World Colleges.

The Worldwide News reported, “Partway through the conversation Princess Diana sat next to Mr. Armstrong and her husband on steps leading to the upper level. When offered a chair that was not as close to the pair, she declined, saying, ‘This is much better.’ The princess chatted with the pastor general while the prince asked his aide to give Mr. Armstrong’s staff information about the college in New Mexico.” This was the third meeting between Mr. Armstrong and Prince Charles but the first between Mr. Armstrong and Princess Diana. Later “he said he thoroughly enjoyed the visit” (ibid).

After the royals departed, the Rothschilds bid Mr. Armstrong farewell and Leopold Rothschild presented him with an autographed copy of the book Exbury Gardens. He then returned to the Dorchester Hotel in London to reflect upon what had been a most uplifting, successful, royal occasion.

At the time of the royal wedding in 1981 Mr. Armstrong ensured the couple graced the cover of the mass circulation Plain Truth magazine reaching its millions of subscribers worldwide. He penned its feature article, “Britain’s Last Gasp of Joy and Splendor.” He recounted how the British throne and House of Windsor were directly descended from King David and that Jesus Christ, the son of David, would soon return to sit upon that royal throne that has been God’s all along.

Mr. Armstrong died before the world witnessed the collapse of the royal marriage and its very public divorce and subsequent sudden death of the princess. However, he did foresee problems as he recalled her removal of the word “obey” from the marriage ceremony.

Today, our editor in chief continues the royal legacy of Herbert W. Armstrong, leading in preaching, publishing and proclaiming the very law of God and explaining how today’s sufferings are destined to culminate in the prophesied Great Tribulation as a result of mankind’s lack of obedience to their Creator. Yet, within that message, he also emphasizes the great hope for mankind and the supremely royal rule to come as implemented by the royal King of all royals, the living Jesus Christ.

So, Mr. Armstrong used our tithes and offerings to, in essence, buy a meeting with the Prince and Princess of Wales (along with several other Dukes and Barons) through funding the College of Music. And of course, him meeting with various levels of Aristocracy lends credence to his position as God’s Apostle and proves he is fulfilling the scripture about going to many nations, and tongues, and kings–even if all the talked about was gardening and something about education.

Looks like all the drive and ambition to be considered somebody important he talks about in the early part of his expansive two-volume Autobiography finally paid off! Through starting a surprisingly successful cult that demanded 10% of all members’ income, he was able to afford to be a patron of the arts and even gain an audience with Dukes, Barons, and the Prince of Wales!

But the big thing was that he touted these visits as evidence of fulfilling prophecy, preaching the gospel, and to show the degree of influence he had in “top circles” due to God’s Blessings!

Well played, sir…well played.

P.S. Seems this is old news (which, obviously it is…Gareth just found it in the History Bin and is using it to heap laurels upon the PCG via it’s connection to this “great man” who had audiences with Royalty), for apparently the Ambassador Report did a bit on it back in ’82…and they included a news article from News of the World.

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5 thoughts on “Ohhh, so that’s where our tithes went!

  1. I don’t know what gravatar means,anyways I used to go to the WCG when Armstrong was still alive but shook Mr.Tkach’s hand and decided I’m gonna go through the Great Tribulation,I still believe in God Jesus their plan keeping the sabbath and the other holydays,I don’t keep it personally but I still believe it holds true and God’s plan makes sense,at the momemt I’m at the tail end of being a crook for 22 years,I think Flurry’s a crook,I’m a crook so thats how I recognise him,he’s gotta be stopped,he’s praying on peoples fears,place of safety my ass,playing on peoples instinct to survive to get tithes,I can’t believe the guy’s walking around saying he’s That Prophet,you guys should keep cutting him down.Stay up.

  2. Herbert Armstrong conned everybody.

    I doubt they would have given him the time of day if they knew he predicted in 1943 that Britain would fall and lose World War II to the Germans. They would have been aghast at his lurid descriptions of how the people would be taken and tortured.

    If they knew his secrets, they probably wouldn’t even let him in their country, no matter how much money he spent on them and how much expensive Steuben Crystal he gave away.

    Thanks for sharing the memory of how a false prophet religious nut old goat conned British Royalty.

    We should given the Royals a break: They have to be concerned with running a country and, not to put too fine a point on it, he conned us too, and did this on our money.

    This is just another example of a total lack of integrity of the Armstrongists and something which is going to be explored more fully.

  3. I particularly liked the News of the World article, beginning “A bizarre church leader with a sordid history of sexual and financial scandal…” That’s how most of us see high-profile American religious leaders.

    And maybe it has always been like that… In my novel “The Gospel According to the Romans”, I have the barest hint of it, with High Priest Caiaphas indulging in a sensuous massage in the Roman Baths. Maybe I should have played that side of things up some more!

    • Well, that sounds like an interesting read, Mr. H-L! Though, in all reality, that kind of thing used to be looked upon with less repulsion than it is now–and it is especially scandalous coming from a religious leader who preached Missionary Only along with “no kissing below the neck”. Yet apparently the world knew more about him than we did…of course, it all makes sense now, as there are numerous cases where the most repressive (or those who preach the loudest against homosexuality) preachers are the ones most desirous, and apparently guilt ridden, of doing those same things.

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